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I've just put some numbers into a basic spreadsheet and come up with this.

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This is assuming there is no postage involved, and that the standard paypal rate of 3.4% + 20p is applied. Nor does this take into account any "powerseller" discounts, as they only apply to business sellers.

It's not all rosy news then - the only benefit of the fee "realignment" is to those selling items for under £1....

But....

Bearing in mind that on average, only 55% of all listed items on eBay sell, the reduced insertion fees on the 45% that go unsold will reduce the outlay paid to eBay for these items. It's a case of each to their own when it comes to working out how much the changes will affect individuals - some people have very igh sell through rates, in which case they may be entitled to volume discounts, on the other hand, the lower volume sellers with a fair few unsold listings will be reducing their eBay outlay by 5p per unsold item.

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And eBay know it! What a disgrace.

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Powersellers get a 15% "discount." I am having a hard enough time trying to get my PS status back in my niches.

They know the numbers all too well. I guess they do not figure on us taking the time to do the numbers also.

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In the UK, in ordr to qualify for the discounts, you must be a registered business seller...


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You will receive PowerSeller Discounts if you meet the following criteria:

- Be registered as a business on eBay
- Be a registered PowerSeller
- Maintain a minimum 30-day Detailed Seller Rating (DSR) of 4.6 in all four of your DSR categories (excluding Motors dealers).

Seller Discount
You will receive Seller Discounts if you meet the following criteria:

- Be registered as a business on eBay
- Have a volume of sales equivalent to Bronze PowerSeller level or above
- Maintain a minimum 30-day Detailed Seller Rating (DSR) of 4.6 in all four of your DSR categories (excluding Motors dealers).
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The discounts offered on the US site are not as significant, but the US powersellers do get a few BIG advantages over UK powersellers - see This Thread

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Steves chart makes sense. The best saving on listing fees amounts to some 50p (£35 start price) but the percentage increase in fvf is about 2.5% which tears into that, if fvf of say £20 is achieved.

Ebay is simply playing with a graph. they have plotted the relationship between the benefits of screwing us over in higher fees and the risks/costs of losing a few sellers and sales. They've elected to work to a point on that graph which they guess will get the max revenue. I.e, they bleed us as close to death as they dare without risking losing too many of us.

This sort of relationship is dynamic. Right now they perceive that they can inflict more pain on us and risk losing the odd bit of business. Only a worthy competitor or a MASSIVE powerseller exodus could drive that dynamic back in our favour. To be honest that's not yet going to happen.

The best that we can do is play the same game from our side. Chisel every penny off costs. Use every listing trick (eg BIN at 4.99 not 5.00) and even push the envelope on rules until the risks outweigh the rewards.

This is a four way tussle. Us, ebay, our competitors, and our customers. We need to be just a touch mercinary and maximize our profit at the expense of those three competing forces. If we could make ebay's owners cough up then that would be great, but there will inevitably be blood on the carpet before that happens. Let ebay play its game, our competitors and customers theirs, and us our own.

And don't get me wrong... I'm not saying screw over our customers because that is ultimately counter productive. Just let's sharpen our game so that we give better service than our competitors while minimising ebay's lousy cut.

Maybe Amazon, or some other competitor will do us better service. But not yet. The tide will ebb and flow. We just need to ride with it.

If anything cheeses me off about these changes, it's that they give bad buyers and crooked competitors a loaded gun. Those are the enemies we need to be on our guard against. That, and the small print.

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